To All Interested Parties
Right Of Place is registered as a charity but runs itself as a private company.
Accounts ending 2010, prove again how far they have fallen or risen depending on the moral and financial fibre of the optics involved.
That year they received €423,850 on duplicate funding from the HSE and the Department of Education and still is a mystery as to why. A spokesman for the HSE states (every year) that they are investigating Right OF Place, yet they still received €260,000 from the Government in 2011.
Over 34 million euro has been given to other
survivors’ groups in total; Right Of Place though tops them all in terms of absurdity. Almost none of this money ever reached survivors except choice morsels to keep a select few followers on board to help give the appearance of legitimacy. This is always the real tragedy.
Right Of Place claimed to have visited 1000 people in their own homes; to represent over 1500 survivors; to have been contacted 5,393 times last year alone, yet it said last year: ‘it had no idea where over 3 million
euro of taxpayers money had gone, who gave them personal donations, or who they ever actually even helped. They also received lottery funding and strong
armed religious organizations such as: The Sisters Of Mercy, Brothers Of Charity, The Sisters Of Charity, the Rosminians and others for more money.
When a nun named Maris Mc Guinness from
St Columbus Convent in Cork asked them what happened to the €20,000 her order gave them, she never even got a reply. The gross amount of these personal donations alone is close to €300,000, and yet still, this Right Of Place rumbles on and corrupts too the real sincerity and honesty of Institutional survivors’ pain and suffering.
Tom Cronin, a founding member of Right Of Place in 1999, has been calling for Government investigation into its affairs from 2006 and has been met with largely deaf ears ever since. What is now at stake is the Statutory Funding and Right of Place sees this as their next meal
ticket, as well do many other survivor group leaders who only lead and feed themselves. The question now is: what are you going to do about it?
To help you, please leave your details here or
nominate a third party of contact. We are here only to make sure that this never happens again, and we all get to go home with a little more currency in our pocket that reflects justice. Reflective compensation is our right and guilt only ever should belong to those who abused us; which includes the predatory nature of a select unsavoury minority group who have mandated themselves to speak for us. Let us now voice ourselves with a chorus of loud outrage or forever be weak from bitter outraged silence that falls only on deaf ears.
My name is james penrose. I am seventy years of age.I am not a survivor of child abuse I am a non survivor because I am still living daily with the effects of having been mentally and physically abused by the Irish state for twelve years in the 40s and 50s.I REALLY TAKE UMBRAGE AT THE STATE, for setting up a statuary trust fund with money that does not belong to it,and also have the audacity not to consult the people to whom the money belongs. Why are we being still trod into the ground.Regarding the continuous education, health and welfare needs of survivors whom I might add are also in their autuminal years,is this some sort of joke.All we want is the money which rightfully belongs to us.The last thing I want to do is to go cap in hand to some lady bountiful.The state had the opportunity to educate the children it placed into the care of the religious orders, instead we were enslaved and abused.WOULD THE STATE NOT CONSIDER THAT A DEFINING FAILING ON ITS BEHALF CAN IT PUT A PRICE ON THAT, JUST GIVE US OUR MONEY. We are sick to death of listening to a load of sanctimonious hogwash.another thing I would like to say is every time I read the sentence in relation to the redress board providing fair and reasonable awards to victims I want to spew up. Which planet do these people live on,after promising us payouts in line with high court awards it is nothing short of downright disgusting, and most of the victims I have met agree with me.DOES THAT NOT IN ITSELF SPEAK VOLUMES.The only people who came out on top of this were the LEECHES who misrepresented us in front of the redress board the only specific need facing survivors is money to cushion their remaining years our money. If the state was so concerned about survivors needs why did it not consult them.The state can rest assured their answer would be the same as mine. Kind regards James Penrose
Yes Jack, good one,! And their is a great danger of the Battle Hardened contributors, Becoming, Battle Weary. So all you readers alias triggers, bring your, pens, words, your selves, your friends, and enter this once in a lifetime fight. And win the day. For when you lay dying upon your bed, with only bitterness and regret, that in these most opportune days, that you failed to do battle with our mortal enemies. Or you can tell you Grandchildren, look at what I and my kind achieved. Rid ourselves of a repressive State and their Vatican Sponsored Irish Roman Catholic Enslavers . Remember, once a victim, but never, ever again. Our fight is your fight. Twisted Oliver.
yes indeed the more people who are made aware of what is really going on the better and the well known names need have no excuses for joining the silence or being just another brick in the wall!
abuse victims are very powerful. if only they knew it and used it positively. united together we are bigger than the career politicians and journalists.
Well done Rob, You never know, Bono might respond, and even put on a live show in Dublin for to drum up support for all the Survivors and Victims of Child Abuse by the R/C/Church in Holy Ireland!
Wonder if your man that owns Facebook might be worth approaching? He helped make Bono mega rich,so who knows?
Dear Rob Northall and all our brothers and sisters, I must say that I am really impressed,with this great effort by all to seek justice as Surviving Victims of the Irish State laws an the Foreign Roman Catholic Church, in our supposed, home, being Ireland. So much, that I poured out mine and our injustices, to all TDs again, but a few minutes ago. If these truths, do not move them, nothing will. They must reinstate our right to seek justice, and enact it. No more under handed dribble, as many of us learned to read between the crooked lines, a long time ago. Keep at ’em brothers an sisters. And as James Moy, puts it:- Keep Strong. Regards to all our Warriors. Twisted Oliver.
yes Bono is strangely silent on the subject of child abuse!
@Jimmy, Always willing to be inspired by others?
Not sure if this is what you meant? But Just sent the Following Tweets?
@BonoVox_ #Redress was Abuse the #StatutoryFundBill is more #Abuse; Government forcing their will on Survivors
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@BonoVox_ We are STILL fighting for Justice for Irelands Forgotten Children of the #Ryan Report and #IndustrialSchools
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@BonoVox_
HELP NEEDED TO GET JUSTICE FOR IRELAND’S FORGOTTEN CHILDREN OF THE INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS AND #RYAN REPORT
It is not to late to urge TD’s to Vote down #StatutoryFundBill this will NOT Happen without a FREE VOTE on this!
If you have never sent an email to TD’s before now is the time to urge them to vote down this Bill!
To use a trusted bulk emailer that will send your email to all TD’s Click http://bit.ly/IentBC
Labour Broke Election Promise to #IndustrialSchool Survivors; Please Demand “Free Vote” on #StatutoryFundBill
Summary of the Main Provisions of the Statutory Trust Fund http://bit.ly/rqwwwW With Comments bellow.
PLEASE Share this so others may know?
Take CAre
Rob
Together WE are STRONGER
Think we should all tweet the begging bowl to our proper patron saint, BONO, now he is rolling in it, and a billionaire to boot, im sure he could spare a few millions to the Survivors , before a certain group in Cork add him to their data base!
There is a list of TD’s On Twitter @
https://twitter.com/#!/ShameOfIreland
Lists
TD’s
If there are any that you know of I have missed let me know?
Just a thought there are many politicians on Twitter, finding them is the problem. To ensure the Tweet gets to them is it not better to use the @ symbol – @politicianname rather than the hash tag # Just for the benefit of people using MacBook Pro or other Macintosh computers and who might like me not be familiar with Twitter, the hashtag is made by holding down the alt key and pressing the number 3 key. (It took me ages to get the hang of the MAC keyboard – I’m a thick as two short planks!) Paddy.
If you are on Twitter you can use Hash Tags #StatutoryFundBill #IndustrialSchools. If Enough people do this we may get the Issue Trending on Twitter?
This can do us now harm??
Also to date there have been 127 Clicks on the Bul emailer mentioned in my post above, ie. 127 Emails sent to ALL TD’s
We need to Keep the Pressure on and ask them to DEMAND a Free Vote on this Bill?
The Government where hoping to get this out of the way Quickly, but we have so Many TD’s still waiting to Speak!!!
It is not to late to urge TD’s to Vote down #StatutoryFundBill this will NOT Happen without a FREE VOTE on this!
If you have never sent an email to TD’s before now is the time to urge them to vote down this Bill!
To use a trusted bulk emailer that will send your email to all TD’s Click http://bit.ly/IentBC
Take Care
Rob
Together WE are STRONGER
Perhaps your post didn’t arrive so the moderator could do anything. Just because you sent a comment doesn’t mean it arrived! I recall posting two comments from you yesterday, both with links. Check and see if they’re there and if not resend them. I’m sure the moderator would have no reason not to post anything from you.
I posted here today and it’s gone. Maybe moderator didn’t approve it.
cool message Oliver .. i like! :)
Hi Jack, I view your acceptance of my humble message with great honour. Dear Jack, please keep up your good work and drive these crooks insane. The more you write on behalf of your fellow victims, the more you will be read. And all of us upon this site, attract the best in victims and supporters. Kindest Regards to you, brother Jack. from Twisted Oliver.
society for too bloody long did not care about us. we fight for basic human rights still. Irish politicians must face up to their child abuse record. we are the witnesses of these holocaust crimes.
Oliver: i like your message!
Patrick Rice, would you be the same Paddy Rice, that I knew in Artane ? In any way, Kindest Regards to you Patrick. Twisted Oliver.
I say get your flock out of there and find a more caring, compassionate place for your society.
If you have never sent an email to TD’s before NOW is the time to urge them to vote down this Bill!
To use a trusted bulk emailer that will send your email to all TD’s Click http://bit.ly/IentBC
Please visit my site on facebook industrial schools ireland picture of artane lots of sites there also where I promoted this great site of Paddy’s so fill your boots people and I have shared your comment with all sites and friends Paddy they thank you.
Please pass this message around: The Bill making the Statutory Trust Fund law will be read in the DÁIL on Tuesday, Wednesday and if necessary Thursday of this week. Because of the huge majority the government have and also because the main opposition party Fianna Fáil were the party that initiated the Bill. It’s impossible to see the it NOT being passed into Law.
Jack, it has long since been accepted, that Redress was only a Token. So we have to act upon this. So all together now, ” Pay up, you lot that rule The Irish Republic and the Irish Vatican Roman Catholic Bootlickers”. Lets put the almost empty Manooth Seminary & the Irish Churches, Cathedrals, Priest accommodation, their expensive cars, For Sale !. Proceeds to their/us Victims. We earned through many years of enslavement, the rights to these Assets. The Irish Roman Catholic Bootlickers, put the money off shore, years ago. This, and the Assets is what we are seeking. Remember, nothing ventured, is nothing gained, brothers and sisters of abuse & slavery. Twisted Oliver.
Paddy, what benefits will this give our less able and cash strapped poverty stricken, brothers and sisters. They are the real victims of our churchly enslavers. It should be impressed upon our Taoiseach and his TDs , that any funding to Right of Place, Education Fund or any similar Crooks, is not only an enormous waste of money, but a terrible insult to all Irish Victims of the State and most certainly those Victims of the Irish Churches. Thanks Paddy, for information. So what say you my brothers and sisters. No more white Elephants.??? Regards to all, Twisted Oliver.
Please pass this message around: The Bill making the Statutory Trust Fund law will be read in the DÁIL on Tuesday, Wednesday and if necessary Thursday of this week. Because of the huge majority the government have and also because the main opposition party Fianna Fáil were the party that initiated the Bill. It’s impossible to see the it NOT being passed into Law.
Robert, excellent description of these crooks. Quinn is an empire builder, with the funds he has stolen from us victims via the Irish Catholic Church, hires lots of rip off artists, like Nova, ROPE, Education Fund, and they all survive upon the interest of this money from heaven. This one is the Quinn Empire. Mr Quinn, you should study Columbkille and his prophesy re the potential sinking ship, that you are, but a crew member of. I sleep blissfully at night. I doubt that you or your kind, could even lie straight in bed. Twisted Oliver.
interesting information Robert etc. thanks! Redress is means tested?! welfare or pension should not be “compensation”.
I do not see those survivors who spoke to the media giving their views on survivors explaining the way survivors are being constantly ripped off by the Government they are allowing this Government to take Religious compensation leaving 110 million to offices working already for the public at large, to pay their wages and save tax, that very tax they had returned on the redress bill was a very good return because TAX is just like the very government that collects it, NO ONE KNOWS HOW MUCH IS PAID AND NO ONE KNOWS WHERE IT GOES. One thing for sure they had most of that bill for redress back and this 500 plus million euro is just robbing the survivors blind to the public and Irish media.
Shove your fecken STATUARY FUND UP YOUR THIEVING ARSE MR QUINN IT IS NOT FOR HEALING BUT FOR YOUR WAGES FOR STAFF IN YOUR OFFICES SO YOU CAN SAVE THEIR FECKEN JOBS IN THE RECESSION
When the Right of Place offers outreach and support to survivors in education, health, housing, employment, welfare, social issues and much more. This can be and is misleading to the public, as this takes financial backing.
Lets look at this.
1. Education. – Funds ran out and not all survivors benefitted from it.
2.Health this is a broad term easily said but in what regarding health there are many areas regarding health again what finances these are already in mainstream society.
3. Employment do they find jobs for people? it is again in the mainstream filling out forms? not enough people in the office to deal with this volume of survivors they claim to represent only one and she is very very busy.
4. Housing? have they got proper homes for survivors?
6. Welfare, now this for sure is a big big question, Very hard up survivors who were living in dire poverty, who used to be able to claim hardship funds have now been turned down due to receiving redress so this redress is now paying to cover those costs. THIS IS WHERE REDRESS IS MEANS TESTED.
7. SOCIAL ISSUES a loose term meaningless to the public this is the job of community welfare so are the community welfare not doing their jobs my experience NO are they fuck.
8. And much much more WHAT WHAT WHAT? IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, ARE THEY FUCK THEY HAVE NO MONEY FOR SURVIVORS NO FUNDS FOR SURVIVORS NO STAFF FOR SURVIVORS TO COPE WITH THE HUGH AMOUT OF NUMBERS THEY CLAIM TO BE SUPPORTING.
I know ground staff are doing their best but only one person is actually doing the out reach in Cork, how maysurvivors do they claim to be representing?
BY CLAIMING THEY ARE SUPPORTING SURVIVORS IN THESE THINGS AS IT IS WRITTEN IT IF SORRY BUT SHEER BULLSHIT THEY CANNOT AFORD ANYTHING FOR SURVIVORS THEY JUST GET WAGES FROM THE HSE WITH NOTHING FOR SURVIVORS THEMSELVES THESE ISSUES MENTIONED COST A LOT OF MONEY AND BY MAKING SUCH STATEMENTS IS DAMAGING TO THE HEALING OF SURVIVORS WHO NEED THE FINANCIAL BACKING. THE FECKEN BISHOPS TOOK ALL THEIR BACKHANDED FUNDS AWAY WHEN MR FECKEN BARRY LEFT. WHO BY THE WAY LOOKED WELL AFTER THE ORIGINAL GROUP HE FORMED HIS INHOUSE FRIENDS
when these groups refer survivers thay give thier names to these services so why go on about confidentality. its so that we dont know if we are members or not.
Thanks Paddy for posting that info, and my post also. just feel the need to warn folk.
Jimmy
Just a quick message: names and addresses held on a computer or elsewhere come under the DATA PROTECTION ACT and the holder of such data MUST have a licence. Google The Data Protection Act.
Be advised, the group in Cork, ROP s/c, are currently sending out mailshot updates and application forms to all the names they currently hold on their data base.
These names are of many former members, and many that are no longer alive, also names that were otherwise high jacked over the years at meetings in the UK , Overseas and Ireland .
I would point out that this group have and are currently in receipt of much funding , based on the supposed membership that they claim to represent. This is illegal ,dishonest and disgusting.
Anyone who does receive their recent Mail Shot,and application forms ,should exercise caution before signing , as what it amounts to is simply swelling their membership base, thus allowing them greater access to larger funding of Survivors backs.
Especially from the proposed STF.
Jimmy
i understand. i have been really busy for a very long time. Ireland has been affected by the English. the protestants. that is a major factor. it seems that the church funds the politicians.
Dear Jack, My foremost goal in life, as of the last new decades was and is to rid the world of these two faced Vatican murderous crooks and their diminishing agencies. Even here in Australia, the Head liar is trying to align itsself with Australian Jewry. His name is Pell (from Hell) and in the closing minutes of the interview, he stuck his cloved foot in his Satanic mouth. And blurted by the power of God, what his Vatican masters really say privately about their envy at Gods Choice of peoples. Hah ! my brothers & sisters in captivity, one of the many strange and wondrous ways of God. Only a few minutes ago did I fume as I started to read the text of the Aussie TV interview. But in the last few lies (lines) there it was. Dash it, maybe next Very Good Friday, the Chief Rabbi will truly Criuicify him, the UnGodly hypocrite.
However, I not being a very Good person, at least I did not being lick my wicked feelings off the road. Hey! and another reason for their sinking Papal ship, is regular maintainance. They fogot to paint anything that stood still, and grease anything that moved . Twisted Oliver
well you have a way with words Oliver!
Dear Jack, no, I could not write to save myself. What I write about is what actually happened to me and the terrible animosity I bear for my jailors & persecutors. Have great compassion for our kind and love supporting the underdog. Thank you for asking, in reality I am a humble little thing. Your friend Oliver.
likewise me too. i only heard of ROP through other survivors of the holocaust. we are not informed. we have to go get whatever if we know how!
Reference a Monument:
living people want living things
to Oliver:
are you a published author?!
I have only heard of right of place on here. the report sounds as if it was written by a politician before the elections. But the few people who have been there dont seem to have the same impressions. I find this fact alone very odd as so much of it is about using empathy. and how come so many were totally unawere of the very existance of right of place. Since its for survivers we should all have been informed.
i like the spirit of your message Oliver!
Thanks Paddy, I wonder just how many survivours actually agree with this Memorial?.
Yes Rose, the Memorial to people is going ahead. Discussion are on going. Bear in mind it is one of the recommendations of the Ryan report
Paddy, is this monument thing still going ahead. Maybe survivours(not groups) should be consulted about this. Who of us wants to see a monstrousity with a ‘fake apology’ errected anywhere?.
We can talk till we are blue in the face, those who should be listening neverhave and never will listen. To them we are NOTHING. Just on the off- chance that one of them is having a sneak peak in here then I have a question for you. When is this so called trust fund going to be put into opperation?
Martha, your first comment is best, they will eventually suffer that fate. The catholic hierachy have actually proven that they are no better than their Roman Empire models. Until very recently it was buisness as usual, the Roman way. As they have no belief in God, their pretence is just a very well rehearsed front. I do firmly believe in God. But detest the hypocracy of organised religions. All of the mainstream Facades are really about money and all of its trappings. Humankind is of now a slave to wealth. This will be proven soon, when we are spiritually tested for a choice of barcoding upon the hand or forehead (numbering) or not. Only those that accept this ID will be allowed to buy or sell. This is the perfect trap for all, I repeat ALL humankind, regardless of rank or class. Foretold is forewarned, even the church hierachy are now promoting this softly to the fools that adore and abide with the Vatican. The period of this abomination will be seven years and at 36 months you will be given 30 days warning of this being compulsary. Those who refuse, will be put to death, eventually. What a shame that we are already Victims of this terrible Vatican church. It will whore itself to 10 nation empire, beig almost finalised as we speak. After some terrible carnage, it will collapse, then smashed tu pulp in the course of terrible wars. Maybe WW3.
the political partys involved in ritualistic child abuse must be confronted with their crimes all these decades. they continue to depend on being in power to keep a lid on what they did to thousands of innocent children.
Glenda, Good one, What a Gas, no wonder most Catholics are fleeing the flock, with a load of big headed fools manning the sinking Papal ship. Sails all torn and compass gone, all too over indulged, legends in their own minds, to man the oars. Going round in circles on the Vatican pond, singing their theme song. ” Slaves A’int What They Used To Be”. Back at Vat HQ, Temp Pope B. is rehearsing his lines for greeting the Aliens. ” Take me to your leader and pour our best water over your heads” You see, he needs to boost his flock numbers with this Alien intake. Proably a load of Boat People from Italy and Australia in Martian tigailia, speaking latin, backwards. Train their new slaves in reciting the Cathichism?, and that you dont need the Bible,as its really a weight lifters kit. My new venue will be Youtube For The Faithful. Do you think that class riddled Ireland, will leave their churches, for Youtube. What next? It will be a load of dribble, mumbo jumbo anyway. A good Irish Smirk. Twisted Oliver
Glenda, Good one, no wonder most Catholics are fleeing the flock, with a load of big headed fools manning the sinking Papal ship. Sails all torn and compass gone, all too over indulged, legends in their own minds, to man the oars. Going round in circles on the Vatican pond, singing their theme song. ” Slaves A’int What They Used To Be”. Back at Vat HQ, Temp Pope B. is rehearsing his lines for greeting the Aliens. ” Take me to your leader and pour our best water over your heads” You see, he needs to boost his flock numbers with this Alien intake. Proably a load of Boat People from Italy and Australia in Martian tigailia, speaking latin, backwards. Train their new slaves in reciting the Cathichism?, and that you dont need the Bible,as its really a weight lifters kit. My new venue will be Youtube For The Faithful. Do you think that class riddled Ireland, will leave their churches, for Youtube. What next? A good Irish Smirk. Twisted Oliver
based on the previous article on the youtube,the pope would love to baptist the aliens and how can a head of the church say something like that,is there not enough of people on earth left for him to corrupt and also the church must be running out of gold coins.how much more lies will the church needs in order for them to live on earth.maybe humans are now just waking up to the so called religious bullshit.the church people will not stop hunting the gold coins till all of them die in hell.
Dear Fellow victims, what fool would volunteer their time to ROP. Surely it would be better to spend this time researching the missing Funds, meant for the (we) Victims. I’ve noticed that an ” E ” is missing from ROP. We are aware that these kind of *?!*%#&# would have worked in escorting victims to Prison Schools in days gone by. Their new vocation, is misleading Victims. Mass my #%&* ass. Twisted Oliver
As the Support Co-ordinator for Right of Place, I have had the opportunity
over the last 12 months to work closely with a core of dedicated
volunteers, regional out-reach managers and staff in an effort to establish
the organisation as a voice for survivors in Ireland and abroad with the aid
of our funding partners this has to a large degree been achieved, however
there is plenty more work to be done. Our focus going forward is on
empowering our members and ensuring that there is access, as required,
to the services which can support our members as they embark on their
future. We are also aiming to develop a national forum where the voices
of all survivors can be heard and so strengthen our position with funding
partners, the public and indeed our own members.
funding partners is code for the departments of education (correction) and ‘health’? support our members as they embark on their future? decades have passed. any still alive may well be on welfare and struggling just to survive! also angry too. is rop a front for the government (state)?
the protestants / anglicans in Ireland abuse children in their care
Let me thank our funding partners the HSE and the Department of
Education for the support and understanding during this period of change.
surely support groups for state child abuse victims / survivors should be independent from the state / government?
well we all no that right of place first chance lined there own pockets and noal barry and all them left the board but were never brought to account for ther actoins, now dont no much about 2 chance right of place but i do no that one guy got 40k to put him ture law school and his still there now how can that be when alot of us are fighting for 15k in our life time, also yes i had an out reach officer call to my home because i up over my head in dept with the esb and others but she tryed to help but to no avail she did try her best and she dose ring me every 2 weeks to see how are thing are going, now she is one of the good ones.
Dear Rob, re your note on Right of Place, well I’ll be a monkeybs uncle, if some spoilt ten year old child did’nt write that dribble. It’s a lot about nothing. So what is the bottom line. What a crazy, zany hoo hah, to present to we the Victims, for an annual report, maybe a rort report. A mass for who, not us anti Catholics in a Catholic Church. These places would have to be cum
fumigated , before We would even pass water upon the floor. Well, theres an open & shut case of trading in the Temple. James Moy said it all, its a humongous con and an Insult to us Victims. So Right Of Place, who was the person(al) f-r-i-e-n-d w-h-o g-o-t -a- s-e-c-o-n-d – c-h-a-n-c-e -a-t-t-h-e- f-u-n-d–s. That never made it to the bottom line. There is a name for creatures , that crawl like ROP, putting it too mildly: lower than a snakes belly. I’m very sure in saying, that the Real Victims Wrath will catch up with you lot one day. You’ll keep ’till then. CARMA works more effectively, than personal revenge. Oliver.
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Dear fellow Victims of all tbe Irish Institutions, when we rid ourselves of this trecherous Vatican, the next on the firing line, will be all the crooks that have misled our kind, any victims of this lowly trash, can cast the first rocks. Twisted Oliver.
Derek, why don’t you contact Taoiseach Enda Kenny, quoting the Arbor hill costitution. Fairplay applies to all Irish citizens regardless of creed. I am sure that he would investigate your situation. Revarxs Oliver.
Read the Right of Place Annual report @ http://bit.ly/Hjqn8B
although i have not been involved in any groups and therefore i have no experience of any groups(none has contacted me1) i find myself in agreement with the spirit of your message William.
to Derek:
your group gets no funding because protestant?
registered charity and private company? that is a contradiction in terms!as for funding (accounts) total transparency is absolutely essential. as to donations whether public or “private” such can cause undue influence more the reason for transparency!
THE TRUST FUND SHOULD BE REJECTED BY ALL SURVIVORS AS THE NAME STATES TRUST,THERE IS NO TRUST IN IT, FOR THE VICTIMS, JUST MORE MONEY FOR THE GROUP LEADERS THAT THE GOVERNMENT ARE PAYING VERY WELL TO SHUT UP THE MAJORITY OF THERE CHILD PRISONERS AND WHAT TOOK PLACE SUCH AS THE DEATHS AND THE VACCINE TRIALS THEY ARE THE REAL ABUSERS FOR IF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAD NOT SEND THE VICTIMS INTO THE PRISONS THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEING ANY ABUSE THE WORD TRUST STICKS IN MY THROAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PERSON THAT SAID SORRY TO THE VICTIMS YOU CAN THEN FIND THE WORD TRUST HARD TO SWALLOW WILLIAM
ROP UNDER NOEL BARRY,= FIRST CHANCE,
ROP UNDER M WALSH = SECOND CHANCE ,
GENUINE SURVIVORS = NO CHANCE!
I am chairman of Bethany survivors group and we have never received a penny. What ever we have done or gone has always been out of our own pocket. It is never fair. I guess it helps if you are catholic.