This link sent to me Aislinn Education and Support Centre is brought to your attention as it outlines what the Aislinn Centre does. Note that despite generous funding Aislinn has ‘insufficient funding for a website’ At the bottom of the page you’ll see a series of clickable links some of which show that Aislinn is making major preparations for the Eucharistic Congress. I’m baffled as to what this has to do with people who have been abused just as I’m baffled as to what is to be achieved by people doing an ‘Inca Trek’.

Perhaps some of the contributors to this website might enlighten me as to what action if any should be taken against an organisation whose funding exceeds one million Euro to date.

Check out ‘Opportunities’ ‘Events’ etc at the very bottom of the page.

 

66 Responses to “Aislinn Education and Support Centre”

  1. What a Total Sham says:

    Can’t believe I just read that post by Mary, Mary you state that >>>THE AISLINN IS A PLACE FOR SURVIVORS TO GO TO LEARN ENGLISH, Survivors from what countries???? the only people i can think of who need to learn English is ASYLUM SEEKERS ,and IMMIGRANTS. IS THAT WHERE ALL THE FUNDING IS GOING ?????That is downright Deceitful and I am sure Illegal THAT MONEY IS SUPPOSED TO B=E USED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE SURVIVORS WHO WERE DETAINED locked up INTO INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS >>>it helps that Mrs Buckleys husband works in the Media,<help's and she has family connections in nigeria most Survivors have NOONE , No Families especially in high places ,or the media ,it is time an independent body to take away all the books from those groups to be checked out ie NAMES ON LISTS to be checked out to justify the Huge Funds CLAIMED FOR over the years , FINANCES,ALL EXPENSES, RECEIPTS. EVERY EURO OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS HAS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR, WHAT A RACKET, Bertie Ahern set all that up <Wonder Why?????what was in it for him and his government ???? ,I sujest the Sisters of Mercy refuse to have anything to do with any groups or QUINN at the Dept of Education nor the Government but deal with the survivors themselves. I am ASHAMED OF MY OWN COUNTRY ASHAMED OF THE WAY THE GOVERNMENT ARE TREATING SURVIVORS AND HAVE BEEN TREATING THEM , ANY IDEAS ANYONE? I know what I think.

  2. Concerned Friend says:

    Mary, what is that about English Lessons??? at the aislinn . is thet for Asylum seekers and immigrants???? must be

  3. Concerned Friend says:

    Hello Mary,I do understand where you are coming from and ,you have so far been ignored by all for many years that have gone by and WHO? has really helped you ,( NO ONE) as far as I can see, You have a great case to go to >The Court of Human Rights < I would find a Lawyer either Jewish, Muslim, Or otherwise BUT NOT any who are in any way connected with the Government or and Groups for they are all connected together and you will not get the JUSTICE you deserve that is long overdue ,,I feel that is the sure way you will get JUSTICE for your Mother and Yourself for all the suffering they put you both through ,there is no Justice in Ireland for the survivors plenty no doubt will bombard you with offering to take on your case or even offer services (That don't exist ) they are all in it only for themselves to keep receiveing their huge funding , Dont trust any of them ,that is my strong advice ,there are great Jewish Lawyers in Dublin who wont be frightened of the Government or Church I feel that is the only way for you to get REAL JUSTICE ,or better still go to the EUROPEAN COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS ,YOU have been suffering far to long alone not getting the right justice ,many children who ended up in industrial schools were transported into those dark places by the nuns from Magdalen laundries babies stolen from their Mothers many were also sold to (good catholic families ????families who paid the church and took the babies out of ireland ,those who were interned into industrial schools were to grow up (if they survived) to Slave for the Church Mary many many many Millions have been lining the pockets of the Government ,Lawyers, Groups , over the years they are the only ones in their greed who have had the benefit OF THE MILLIONS PAID OVER TO THE CORUPT GOVERNMENT PAST AND PRESENT NOT THE SURVIVORS, It is disgusting that SURVIVORS are still trying to get JUSTICE ,Mary dont trust them ,they are not your friends if they were you would have had proper JUSTICE for yourself your Mother and family years ago.keep strong and go to the Jewish Museum in Dublin they would know of a good lawyer.its up to you to go to the Aislinn you have a right to go where you want but dont forget they get and have been getting HUGE FUNDING OVER THE YEARS ,WHERE HAS ALL THAT FUNDING GONE?? have they helped you take your case to the High Court THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED YEARS AGO ????I suspect the answer is NO. i SUSPECT THEY ARE HAPPY TO HAVE YOUR NAME ON THEIR LIST FOR MORE FUNDING.

  4. Since its about christine well this is my memory of her letter to the newspapers. she did write and we were all impatent but nothing happened. So we made plans to escape and tell the newspapers and the police ourselves. So christine mariex and i left one evening. We left through the window of the downstairs room which we had been cleaning. Once we were outside the gates it was a wonderfull feeling. we slept in ditches on the side of the road. mariex had an aunt that she thought would know what to do in order to get help. but she phoned the police and laughing policemen took us straight back to goldenbridge. we were locked in a room on the grounds for sometime then we were taken into the main building and told to undress down to our underclothes. then we were stood in front ofeverybody in goldenbridge. we were all three beaten severly. this has never left my mind. i understood from that that if i was going to escape well i would have to do it alone. this is one of the reasons i stayed attached to christine. we went through a lot of things together. but blood dident flow. we were coverded in marks for weeks afterwards.

  5. Well mary. no i dident visit my mother in the laundrys. I was abandoned by my mother and as you might know men alone were unable to keep thier children as the social services called the police and we were taken to goldenbridge. You already know what the churchs nuns and priests made the children carry what thay called sins.I was tried and condemed to 10 years in goldenbridge. the only time my mother tried to see me she was turned away by the head nun. the way thay spoke of our perents was insulting.the constant humiliation destroyed many. if it bothers you that i said i understand how you feel . well thats your interpretation. i dident mean to upset you .

  6. mary says:

    Pauline you understand nothing about the way I was treated. And how I am feeling were you a child visiting the laundries. Is your mother in a mass grave in Ireland

  7. being brainwashed both by the state and the church all of ireland was in fear . what with wars and all it was easier for them to control society. but being backward isint the same thing. you know mary i understand how you feel about having to put up with insults about your mother. any child in these institutions who had family in a situation that would allow them to hurt the child even by telling them that thier mothers dident care about them well it was done often. the red lights over our mothers doors and such a lot of nastyness. i left ireland a long time ago so no i dident remember to say holy when talking about nuns.i have kept well away from all that.

  8. Mary i have been thinking about your earlier comment. Mary in 1955 a small girl died in goldenbridge. She had been there for 4 days. when her Father insisted on seeing her little body her legs had been burnt nearly to the bone. This little girl has her place because of her death . her perents tried to get an explanation. I dont think anyone knows exactly how she died but a little girl suffered. the lay helpers were in charge and would put the babies under a running tap to stop them crying as thay had to catch thier breath then the baby would go into shock. if you want to believe that only christine is the only one who matters . well believe me for many who were there this little baby and the one who died who was about 11 years old. thay are both in the report i mean the ryne report.dont wipe them out.

  9. mary says:

    They were called holy nuns or have you forgotten as a child it was drummed into me they were virgins of god and the likes of my mum was a sinner she was evil and would go to hell If families weren’t backward why didn’t they do something about the abuse of children and women of Ireland they could read and write so my didn’t they ask questions that not clever its stupid in my eyes

  10. No i dont tnink it makes me anything at all. i am saying that in the50ths my family werent backward. i have read many different books about the institutions and the writers were from the institutions. all very interesting. only the survivers who have ways of knowing beforehand saw the nuns say sorry. why you call them holy is a mystery to me . the ones alive write also for the dead. the magdelaines are part of it all.

  11. mary says:

    Excuse me have I ever said I know what I talking about. Have I ever said anything about Goldenbridge. Why would I let someone use my name the funding is there for survivors .I will always mention my mum and the ladies who died and suffered in stinking laundries you have a life You heard the words sorry from the Irish state and holy nuns they heard nothing they rot in there graves. We are the lucky ones. Now we can express how we feel. I want justice for my mum and these ladies. You think this fund will make you happy not at all to me its dirty money. It cant replace my mum take away survivors suffering but it can help with living expenses for survivors that struggle that how I see it . Now I will mention golden bridge it was like all industrial schools. But it got publicist more that because of famous Christine Buckley.Pauline are you saying been able to read and write makes you intelligent. Look at Richard Branson.Armstrong lots of famous people who are dyslexia that means you struggle with reading are very intelligent. There is emotional intelligent s that what they lacked they were brainwashed to watch children been abused. That is Eireen for you.Cead mile a failte.

  12. Sister Sadista says:

    Mary??? You really don’t know what you are talking about. you know nothing about what went on in Goldenbridge .if you want to be used by those groups to secure their funding using your name ,as you mention the magdalens< fine up to you at the end of the day see who does well out of it (The Group) and who is left out in the cold ,YOU.

  13. When a women announced to her family that she wanted to be a nun the perks started. thier schooling was arranged for them. many made the decision and couldnt back out. i dont really see how thay could have passed the exams had thay been backward. my father was in no way backward nor were our nieghbours.nor were you proberly. i learnt to read and write like many others in goldenbridge.whenever we ask what these groups are for we get told something different from the texte itself so of course we are confused. if Christine wants to go to church as a private person well thats up to her. but if its to have v. i. p. foot washes well she shouldnt use the time to invent stories of her own. once again it wasent about Christine. it was about all of us.

  14. FXR says:

    Someone who could invent imaginary cups of tea in being delivered by a bishop at 3am wouldn’t have any trouble inventing anything else.

    You don’t seem to be able to get to grips with the fact Christine Buckley told lies on national TV. It’s not as if you didn’t have the evidence. Now your’e even managing to make excuses for nuns. The poor nuns who were unable to speak up about the horrors they saw. That omits the fact that they were not witnesses but the perpetrators of the abuse. It was different back then was it? So this is now: where are all these sadist nuns coming forward to tell the truth now they live in more enlightened times?

  15. mary says:

    FXR well dear your the one skimming over the comments how the hell could I be Christine Buckley as she ever claimed she had a Mother in a Madagline laundry.I defend no institution’s I stand alone defending my mum my believes. I not a sheep following other people It look like your having ago at her for going to church. Just remember it was the people that worked for the church abused children there was no such thing as C.R.B checks back then most of these people that became nuns didn’t have a good home life.And weren’t very educated that why they never answered back or spoke up for the wrongs that was happening in front of there eyes. All of Ireland were backward back then. Reasons they read the holy bible which tell you to enter the kingdom of god you most live a clean life by doing good deeds and how little children should be protected from evil they never questioned the bible and the shit that was happening to the poor children and women of Ireland. The men of Ireland back then lived in the pub and could not care less it was called dysfunctional Ireland .

  16. Its important that a spokesperson reflects the feelings of others .being honest is part of all this . many people have given all thier energy in order to do that the commission into child abuse was hundreds of survivers from all over the world doing this so that the truth about the nuns and priests who were trusted and protected by the state become known and proved. in time all this will be revisited so the honesty of all of us is at stake.

  17. FXR says:

    Mary you don’t seem to be able to fact the facts about Ms Buckely. The Catholic Church is famous for accusing it’s critics of being bitter and angry. In a way it’s quite fitting that you have to adopt the same tactic in deflecting from the fact she’s defended the same institution. Buckley lied on National TV. Why are you so adverse to facing up to that fact? You’re not actually Ms Buckley are you?

  18. mary says:

    FXR are you the Irish government how do you know so much the millions she received were you there when the money was handed over. Is that her fault the country is in recession its greedy Ireland fault they spent – spent – spent and drove the country into a recession. The same way the Irish people got on with there lives and closed there eyes to the abuse of innocent children all those years ago My advise stop been bitter and angry look forward to each day because life is precious.

  19. There was talk about a group wanting to organise the reconcilation between the church and the survivers. what is that about. i am also very surprised to hear that we are being offered english lessons in the aisleen centre.but im glad to read your posts mary. otherwise we wouldnt even know that.for those abroad its good to know what these groups really do.

  20. FXR says:

    I’m relating facts about Christine Bucley that are demonstrated by evidence. Making false statements on TV3 in order to make Mr. Martin look good do not constitute part of Christine’ “Private Life”. She lied in front of an audience in service of a corrupt institution. She receives millions in funding and pockets a bloated pay packet while the country is in recession. For that kind of money I’ll teach people English (though I’m mystified as to why Irish victims of the CCL need to learn English, give them typing lessons and use the money for councillors. Actually for €80,0000 a year I’ll even wipe your dogs arse.

    Buckle lied on TV to defend the Roman Catholic Church after taking part in a PR foot bath inside the Pro Cathedral. That’s a fact. If that’s none of your business then her defence is none of your business either.

  21. mary says:

    Hi Paddy
    Yes I have read your book and I admire your strength your dignity and your respect for all survivors. For years I have been talking to my doctor about the abuse I suffered. No one else wanted to know. Even when I arranged a service for my mum twenty years ago no one wanted to know there attitude was she is strange. This is not about who got there first and exposed the abused this is about the help that Christine Buckley has given survivors I was made welcome when I visited the centre they don’t allow people that are are abusive its a place for survivors to go learn English, computer courses and most important form friendships.FXR by the way I never said I was shy YOUR judging me like you do to Christine Buckley and it none of my business what she dose in her Private Life as I say she is a survivor show respect for all survivors not the ones you choose.

  22. Thanks paddy for putting that straight. you see i only started following events when i got a computer so theres loads of things i just dident know. and i think mary rafterys work went a long way. it wasent christines work that was at the begining of the commissions into child abuse it was all of those who took part in all this. what would we have done without christine!!! and where would she be without us!!.these arent facts. but what she says in public is our concern.thanks again paddy for the information.otherwise i wouldnt know.

  23. Paddy says:

    Just for the record my book THE GOD SQUAD was published many years before Christine Buckley or any one else said a word about abuse. THE GOD SQUAD was selling hundreds of copies a day in Ireland and the UK before ‘Dear Daughter’ was ever heard of. Paddy

  24. FXR says:

    This is not Christine Buckleys website so if anyone is stalking it’s you playing No1 Buckley supporter. You don’t seem to be too shy about name calling until it comes to Ms. Buckley.

    You have been given links to Buckley lying on TV3 in defence of Diarmaid Martin. She lied about the man on hunger strike being given a cup of tea at 3 or 4 in the morning. For whatever reason you still persist in finding fault with all and sundry EXECPT FOR CHRISTING BUCKLEY. I’m beginning to think you are Christine Buckley.

  25. You know mary. alll this started a long time ago in the mid 80ths. a group of women from goldenbridge got together and made a complaint. Paddys book also was published.we all have our memories. mine are of my time in goldenbridge. i write as I remember. if my memories and christines are different in some cases well thats because thay are mine.the main point should be the way these institutions were run . all of us who took part deserve our own place. when others are blocked out because of this persons omnipresence of course we are upset. you call that stacking. well i call it writing about being one of the many on the outside. i have asked for copies of childhood photos in the possession of a women who works at the aisleen centre. i dident even get an answer. i was told this by someone who had seen a photo of me as a child.all i asked for was a copy.we all have children we would like to share with.it is very disapointing.

  26. mary says:

    Do any of you have a life why are you so interested in Christine Buckley she a survivor. I call all of you stalkers. If she did put up a web site it would be there for all of you to abuse her with your stupid comments..Without her you would not of had compensation from the Irish government.

  27. The point isint the man on hunger strike or his courage. its about seeing and hearing mrs buckley announce to one and all as a spokesperson for all of us who are never part of the speakers that she was visiting him in the middle of the night when she met the church leader.its not up to her to do publicity for the church. it was after a ritual so why did she invent that. and what for as a spokesperson .

  28. FXR says:

    Now it’s back to the guy on hunger strike again. You seem reluctant to face the fact there is clear and unequivocal evidence that Christine Buckley lied to make the archbishop look good. Trying to avoid that fact by casting aspersions left and right on other people is not doing anything to cover up your obvious aversion to facing the facts when it comes to Christine.

  29. mary says:

    Hey Guys. Chill out I well aware I should be angry with the Irish Government that was in the Dail. How can I there all dead. The Irish Government now are only babies they have not got a clue of went on back then. They have to beg the nuns for there records to make sense of it all.As for the hunger striker I disagree with you it was not courage it was a disturbed mind from the years of abuse that eventually drove him that far.Courage and a disturbed mind is when you you commit suicide have to leave three children on Christmas day all alone with no camera or media putting it on you tube for public display. Courage is when your survivor and you have gone to your grave believing what happened to you was normal as these survivors weren’t listened too. May they all rest in peace.

  30. The person on hunger strike was sincerly showing courage. but christine discribing him as having his tea served by mr martin makes him out as cheating what about his feelings.

  31. robert says:

    Once more The leader of the Right of Place in a interview on rte tv news mentioned many survivors are frail and elderly now, so why did he not take that golden opportunity to mention why the funds never met those survivors needs, Pensions welfare etc as I mentioned before should have been the fight for survivors needs

  32. robert says:

    I have never met Christine Buckley or anyone from the center I do not believe for one moment survivors are attacking another survivor I do believe there is a lot of hurt here and rightly so, Ever since these groups started there has been many survivors left out in the cold, decisions have been made without consent of the majority. A lot of survivors do not even know if they are members of such groups as I have read many times online in comments.
    All support groups should be reviewed by an Independent body to see if everything is in order and if money cannot be accounted for then there should be a tribunal to explain why when where who and how the monies were spent. As these and many other important questions need answering like how many survivors have been supported FULLY with their needs,I say this because if there was no final outcome to satisfy any individual survivor’s needs then they were not supported properly to the full,I say this again because there always have been so many survivors and very few staff to meet the flow of survivors needs.
    Survivors deserve answers to all these questions and they certainly most of all are entitled to air their disappointments just as any praises.
    Survivors have the right to have everything cleared up for once and for all.
    Everything and everyone has run out of funding, but Survivors are still trying very hard to live some kind of normal life, the job therefore is no way finished,
    all this has shown so far is that funding these things have failed every survivor immensely.
    The real needs were Funding for welfare, Health, disability, Pensions, Housing, Transport, Young children ( who were by the way exempt from all funds a total disgrace as this being about child abuse ) Personal learning difficulties, it seems to me the Government leaders themselves did not read the Ryan report I sure bet the Education minister never took the time. It would not have been hard to get the names from redress and seen who was in poverty due to the past and who needed what to help and support those needs. This blame I lay down right at the feet of the Government who is supposed to protect the people and make proper decisions, but are more interested in grabbing the Religious compensation as a 50 50 deal rewording it as a contribution for themselves as the Religious share of redress yet they got over 50% back in taxes for those redress costs redress

  33. John Ayres says:

    @Mary. What on earth was Christine Buckley doing out at 3 and 4 O’clock in the morning when she noticed the Archbishop handing out a CUP OF TEA?

  34. FXR says:

    You can wiggle and squirm all you like Mary. Trying to avoid specific facts with border-less generalisations is a tactic more associated with the CCL of Rome, Italy.

    What the guy on hunger strike did or did not do is beside the point. Christine Buckley told and out and out lie regarding the RC Prince coming out of his Palace at 3am in the morning. Not only did this never happen but in addition Christine Buckley was never there at any time in the weeks the hunger strike lasted.

    On the day of the holee Pro Cathedral foot spa (manicure not included) Chrissy sat inside the church while others were excluded because they wanted to hand in a letter of protest.

    Go to post #520.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70901724

    This is the interview after the foot spa in which Chrissy took up the job of PR spinner for the CCL
    http://www.tv3.ie/videos.php?video=32818&locID=1.65.370&date=2011-02-23&date

    It’s worth noting here that Christine Buckley is doing more than telling an outright lies to make the CCL look good. After inventing this fantasy Drumcondra Nocturnal Tea Service, the head waiter being non other than Bish Martin, she goes further. This imaginary cup of magical tea, according to Christine, changed totally how she feels about the CCL. Thousands of years of abusing humanity got wiped out just like that.

    So there you are: if you’ve been abused, raped, used as a guinea pig, imprisoned for your childhood by the CCL, don’t worry, we have the cure.

    Yes folks all you troubles will be over once you have a cup of Christine’s No1 Punjana Magical Drumcondra Tea! If you can’t find it in Tesco just use your imagination: a little fantasy helps!

  35. thanks mary. well most of us havent any contact at all with the aisleen centre. when you say young and old go there well what for since its a refferal service. you know as one who knew cristine from the day she first came to goldenbridge i would feel a lot better about things had i not been asked for my details and then nothing.perhaps the head nun did trip over the top step of the stairs leading to the landing. and the first child in line did get burnt. perhaps she is also reading this. how should she feel. and the public beatings in goldenbridge did mark us for life . but how her leg split open i wouldnt know . mary for many of us child protection in the future is the most important part of all this. there werent any stars in goldenbridge there were frightened hungry children making all sorts of things that were sold.i am not jealous of christine. i know that i can prove all i say. if she was doing such a good job of things why would anybody complain.

  36. Mary says:

    Most of the comment or nasty and evil its about another human being which lies and jealousy are the real reasons you attack her. I have been to the Aislinn centre and seen for my own eyes every age young and old using this service a lot of survivors would be on hunger strike if it wasn’t for the work Christine does. If she get a good wage so what as for the hunger striker why blame her. He made that choice not to put food in his mouth.By the way I wasn’t talking about kids not accepting a black child Catholic Ireland were the culprits and the holy nuns.You got beaten if you had scabies . measles any rashes you had your skin scrubbed ginger hair, didn’t walk in a straight line. y had buket teeth and many more all of Ireland were responsible for believing in Sunday services and never questioning the church who suffered the children of Ireland and the Madagline laundries,

  37. FXR says:

    Pauline the whole thing was an invention by Christine. She never went near the man who was on hunger strike outside the Bishops Palace and neither did Diarmaid Martin. She was having a fantasy live on TV3 invented to make the Church look better.

    Eh Mary has the cat got your tongue or are you waiting for instructions from the Jervis shopping centre?

  38. When we were children in the 50ths a coloured child was rare. but it wasent an issue then at all . kids get used to each other very fast and dont notice skin colour . if christine would tell the truth about her time there we would all feel better.Its not a racial issue its about abuse that went on for years and years.as things stand it could easly be turned into that . but its not true.as for her show of admiration for daidmund martin how come thay are seeing each other in the middle of the night. what was she supposed to be doing and what an awfull way of treating a man on hunger strike.it was unbelievable but it was shown on t v.

  39. FXR says:

    When you come across comments Mary maybe you should read them instead of skimming over them to get to what you were going to say anyway.

    What do you think of the bold Christine telling lies on TV3 to make a Catholic Archbishop look good? Do you thing of Christine’s big fat income had anything to do with her playing ball by taking part in the Pro Cathedral PR footspa?

  40. Mary says:

    I have just come across these comments why are survivors so jealous of Christine who has done well for herself that was down to hard work and determination. Think about how hard it was for her all those years ago been the only black child she would have suffered because of her colour. Congratulation you deserve it.

  41. Bernadette O'Neill, Mary Kiely,Tommy, Geraldine Mc Hugh(Mrs.) says:

    Bertie Ahern was as bent as a nine Bob note .Mrs Buckley has proved to be a dangerous person to be in the position of running a hugley funded centre Supposed to be for The Survivors who should have had professional help by well trained qualified staff ,She is known to have CUT off survivors who she didn’t like or could bully from any getting to services or was not her personal friend usually those from the late 1960’s into the 70’s from goldenbridge or who knew her in goldenbridge when as she herself said Goldenbridge had changed from 1964 when it became a totally different place with more laughter in the place (Her Words) so survivors from the 1940’s until 1964 in Goldenbridge 90 per cent have NOT had any help whatever most fled abroad ,she has been and is to disturbed and very scary like many survivors of the Industrial schools who were damaged as children by the Abuse suffered to have been given such a position by the government and has caused division among survivors ,(like who had the worst time ) at the begining when all this first came out she made it obivious she didn’t want to know survivors who were in Goldenbridge during the 1940′ to 1950’s except for the very small number maby 2 people who didn’t leave Ireland , one real survivor who returned to ireland after many years who grew up in goldenbridge and knew her from that time found herself totally ostraized ,ignored and then Bullied so badly by that small group she fled Ireland again ,this further abuse caused the poor woman to have a nervious breakdown , SO THIS IS Bertie’s idea of HEALING ?????? the same goes for those people who recieved Funding to set up Avoca House in Parnell Sq supposed to be for survivors ,That was a CON as well,what about the Greedy Lawyers in Dublin who fethered their own fat bank accounts and didn’t do the job for survivors properly that they were well rewarded for and supposed to have carried out for the SOLE BENEFIT OF THE SURVIVORS >not for themself’sCOMPANSATE THE REAL SURVIVORS NOW.

  42. culchiewoman says:

    Justice for Magdalenes pays $80 US per year for website hosting. You can do a soup-to-nuts website on GoDaddy for that price. But we’ve yet to organise any ‘Inca Treks’! We’d rather be paying Magdalene survivors’ heating bills or for their groceries. This just beggars belief, Paddy, seriously.

  43. Ffor all the women who were in goldenbridge with Christine very few seem to have any contact with the aisleen centre. Its been for her throughtout the years a reason to be famous to go on tele and be in the eye of the public at any occasion. I am glad to know that she dident ask to be crowned the queen of goldenbridge.She and other group leaders lied to us when the report from the commission was published. it might not have been done on purpose but that dident change the situation. It caused too much harm.

  44. Desmond Heeney says:

    Acording to Dr Bill Thormney Cristine Buckley is no longer on the list to be nominated to get the Freedom of Dublin honour thank god

  45. mick o'brien says:

    At the foot wash in St Marys Pro, Cristine Buckley abused survivors, members of ACCAI, who were protesting out side and Paddy Doyle, clearly witnessed on Youtube. A woman who turned on her own

  46. crispina says:

    You’re soooo wrong, Paddy.
    This is not about Christina Buckley.

    This is a group very pious people living history adepts repeating history of Eurcharistic Congress 1932, when Good Shepherd Magdalenes made the irish lace altarcloth offered by the sisters.

    Look what is needed:
    3 000 volonteers
    Commitment Required: Ongoing
    How many hours: 40 hours daily

    Supervision, Induction, Training, Insurance cover and Support/Advice/Recognition offered

  47. i have tried the site. its got nothing to do with industriel schools at all . mauntain climbing to help the blind. and publicty for the church. i suppose that once again christine will be there for the cermony.but whats that about really. or its a very unfunny joke.

  48. robert says:

    Christina well spoken gal it was not put in writing

  49. whats this buisness about the church. i havent been to church for so long that i dont understand is this about hosties. excuse my ignorance.

  50. I agree there that these Church events seem to interest Christine. She started having visions before the foot washing.I thing the water must have gone from her feet to her head.In order to show Dairmud martin that she was on his side she used the time on the tele to flatter him. Its differcult to have grown up with her. And now we hear things about our life in goldenbridge on u tube. there is nothing left of our childhood friendship. and her memories arent ours.

  51. Monica says:

    Christina

    WELL SAID

  52. Christina says:

    Bertie Ahern founded the Aislinn Centre (need I say more)and deemed Christine suitable to run it. Don’t know what actually qualified her for the job other than the fact that she’d told her life story and she’d been on a few TV programmes. It could also be that Ahern was trying to keep on the right side of her, like he was trying to appease her.
    I do feel a certain amount of empathy for her but only because she is a survivor too. And while she is certainly able to speak for herself, she does come across as rather niave and gullible. For example, when Bertie Ahern apologised to us, she actually believed he meant it!

  53. myself says:

    She was Sr Fabian’s Pet, <God saw this Nun's cruelty ) Full stop

  54. myself says:

    So am I supposed to spend two hours on a train, Then catch a Plane to Dublin Airport, Get a Taxi to a Hotel ,all out of my own Pocket????

  55. Paddy says:

    Perhaps a request to the HSE as to the amount of funding given to Aislinn and how that funding is used, should be made. Paddy

  56. Martha says:

    Paddy Doyle wrote:

    “Perhaps some of the contributors to this website might enlighten me as to what action if any should be taken against an organisation … “

    There’s not much else one can do about such people, Paddy, except to steer clear of them. Being the type they are, they will continue to do what they do until they cease to exist.

  57. Paddy says:

    Glad to have been of some small assistance Robert. Best wishes, Paddy.

  58. I still remember the day Christine arrived in goldenbridge. It was raining so we were in the rec a big room next to the yard . Christine had been sent by a couple who had been caring for her. I saw a small child my age standing alone near the door. I walked up to her and told her to come and sit on the bench. for the first two days or so she was called names and such but thats what it was like for everyone then one or two others liked her hair so she fitted in well. the fact that she stayed in the untill she was 18 or 21 proves this. and she did get an education i know because i was also sent to the outside school and i helped her with studies.I left by absconding when i was nearly 15 and chrissie was fine then . no scared legs or burns. she got on very well with the nun who took over from XS.

  59. robert says:

    Thank you Paddy for correcting my typing appreciated. Robert
    Mary you are so so right lass. It is just so shocking that they are so up themselves.
    i do not see any of them asking us witnesses of abuse if we would like to represent our selves or if we would like the freedom to the so called Support groups office, let alone the City of Dublin. The cheek of it to say we should read urgently a letter to Bill Tormey to nominate Mrs Buckley (( see Paddy’s Latest post)) It is so arrogant it makes me laugh with anger.

  60. Mary says:

    Christine Buckley is one of the few survivors who has already gained far too much by her ability in writing and talking. She has been very good at looking after herself. It is the silent many who are and have always been the losers. They have never had a voice. As Robert suggests I would also agree on: All survivors of the hellholes of Ireland, should be given the same privileges. Nothing less should be acceptable. Mary.

  61. robert says:

    May be we should get it to the public eye, that these so called groups have had absolutely no recognized qualifications, absolutely no experiences absolutely no police checks on any person on their staff to run an office claiming they are representing survivors of abuse on such a vicious scale, this involves very serious tasks, as this is on a devastating scale of abuse of human rights.
    yet ireland wants to approach the u.n. for human rights as a representative of its people?
    The Cork Right of Place is the fine example of how things went wrong, the media have let the irish people down.
    These professional media people should be protecting the vulnerable of our society.
    It is illegal for any Government or church to be making any dealings with any tom dick or harry, claiming to represent the most vulnerable of our society without the authority to do so, as unqualified and inexperienced plus without a police check to do so.

  62. robert says:

    Just to say to all i have just emailed this Bill Tormey councillor Dublin
    here is what I sent so you all know. I only hope I can find like minded people to agree. by the way the email does not work on his page so I sent it via his email address alone.
    here it is hope you agree here folksDear Bill,
    I wish you a very happy New Year.
    I as a survivor and many will find this an insult once again due to the fact we all suffered some in more schools than others.
    Every survivor should have the freedom in the cities they live in, they after all suffered HELL as children.
    why just these so called group leaders who have no idea of the suffering survivors are going through no matter what is claimed in these present days.
    These groups were not even qualified nor had any experiences in such devastating abuse on such a large scale, no police checks nothing, to say they represent such Vulnerable people who suffered. It was all a cop-out on the Government and the religious I thought people who deal with such devastating matters had to be highly qualified and highly skilled full with experiences as in all areas to be dealing with the public. I am shocked that these people have been use to run such groups.

    She got to tell her story as did many so called leaders but thousands are neglected every day.
    For one, those on welfare have their redress seen as sufficient savings a total disgrace and these groups have done nothing as they were UNPROFESSIONAL, UNEXPERIENCED, how could they?
    And how can a Government allow such things happen to so many survivors who need help?
    Giving the ages and health of survivors what need do they have for education? those with families today used the service but survivors as you call us very very little used this service.
    Family tracing? we were orphans, counseling?
    we just talk of struggles today.
    welfare ? there was nothing on the table for survivors, health there was nothing on the table survivors and very young children of survivors never qualified either for those fund just mentioned, giving the very nature of this whole affair.
    Survivors were and are being treated as mainstream society/ welfare cuts they suffer pensions they suffer, child benefit they suffer, even the xmass box for families with tiny children suffer. why ? because NO GROUP IS IN TOUCH WITH SURVIVORS.
    The Government promised to hear, listen and understand the needs of survivors, they admitted just as reliable as the church for the crimes against children, but instead of helping to try and put these things right they took 50% 500 million plus euro, I believe of the religious contributions of 600million euros toward survivors, leaving a mere 110 million euro.
    Then calling this fund a STATUARY FUND,
    Does this now mean if two people commit the same crime may now pay 50% each of the time or pay 50% of the fine?
    Now to dump those funds I mentioned earlier ” education, family tracing, and counseling funds” onto this so called fund is even a bigger insult you must think?
    This money by the way was donated by the irish people AFTER THEY PAID THEIR TAXES, does this now mean the Government can now dictate how charities can spend their money on the people who need it most?
    So there is a lot to put right I believe before you even think of just choosing one person from 14000 for the freedom of a city.
    regards Robert

  63. Monica says:

    Paddy

    When I read that I couldn’t believe it and then I googled the Aislinn Education Support Group and look what I found. Is there no end to this? The next thing we will find is that “THE MEMORIAL” will be a “Bronze Statue” of Lady Christine in O’Connell Street or maybe they might put it in Kilmainham Goal or the GPO and we can celebrate both the 1916 Rising and Christine’s Rising. I’m surprised she never got elected to the State Council, that was announced on Friday, guess Michael D knows things we don’t.

  64. Paddy says:

    The Aislinn education and support centre, set up by former Goldenbridge resident Christine Buckley, between 2007 and 2010 topped €1.1m From The Irish Examiner, October 2010. The cost of hosting a website can be as little €40 to €50 per year. ‘Ready made’ websites such as this one are available free. The hosting of this site is free through the generosity of Connect Ireland. Paddy.

  65. FXR says:

    Why on earth would the victims of the Catholic Church Limited want to go to one of it’s PR festivals? They’ve listed the eucharistic congress three times on the same page.

    The trip to Cuba they list is to raise money to fight blindness. That money must be going directly to Aislinn.

    A basic web site can be built in a day for less than a couple of hundred euro.